Coyote Rollerbade parts and stuff

[UnderSerf]

I bought my son a pair of unused Coyote Rollerblade Inline Skates
(yes, the brand
name ;) and they are absolutely the best for offroad that we've found
so far....

Alas, the boot portion is full of design flaws compared to his regular
K2 street skates - most notably, the lack of adequate buckles (straps,
whatever the're called)


Would anyone perchance know of a place or shop to buy =aftermarket= or
add-on adjustable buckles such as found on skate boots?

Sheesh - I can't even find out what the buckle assembly on a skayte
boot is called - latch, catch, buckle?

The Coyote was discontinued ages ago, but has a AWESOME aluminum frame
w/6-inch tires that =looks= to be applicable to some other,
better-designed boot

TIA!

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[B Fuhrmann]

"UnderSerf" wrote ...

Post by UnderSerf
I bought my son a pair of unused Coyote Rollerblade Inline Skates
(yes, the brand
name ;) and they are absolutely the best for offroad that we've found
so far....

I've thought that they would be fun to play with once in a while but I don't
want to do it enough to be worth the cost of the skates.

Post by UnderSerf
Would anyone perchance know of a place or shop to buy =aftermarket= or
add-on adjustable buckles such as found on skate boots?

If you can find a shop that specializes in skates and skateboards, they are
likely to have replacement buckles and straps for agressive skates. I have
even found the Rollerblade replacement buckle/strap sets in one of the "big
box" stores (Galyan's)

[Motorblade]

The best way might be to forage them off garage sale or resale skates and then
take them to a riveter or perhaps you can punch a rivet yourself.

My RB rep gives me one side of many skates that are used as displays on the
wall so there is no match I forage wheels and bearings and liners off them and
occasionally buckles or straps. If you can contact a rep for one of the big
three skate companies they may have demos single sides that they could sell you
cheap, no promises.

there was a discussion a few months ago about moving the boot on the frame to a
more balanced position but we geussed the boot couldn't take the adjustment
and survive very well.
i own a pair

Good luck
"fritz"
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[UnderSerf]

Post by Motorblade
The best way might be to forage them off garage sale or resale skates and then
take them to a riveter or perhaps you can punch a rivet yourself.

Yeah, we figured the same thing - I'm a former toolmaker/machinist so
actually =attaching= the buckles and straps is no big deal, I was just
hoping to find a source for the straps themselves

One look at the frame and attaching =something= else comes to mind ;)

I =BRIEFLY= imagined ski boots would work...

heh

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[UnderSerf]

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:25:52 -0500, "B Fuhrmann"

Post by B Fuhrmann

Post by UnderSerf
name ;) and they are absolutely the best for offroad that we've found
so far....

I've thought that they would be fun to play with once in a while but I don't
want to do it enough to be worth the cost of the skates.

yeah, even on eBay they were 175 (I was lucky to find them for auction
in the same town I live in - otherwise shipping woulda pushed 'em over
200) REAL popular too, despite their flaws

Though the trails can be nice, Seattle is a bicycle town, skating is
almost exclusively sport/aggresive (skate parks and such). Coyotes
take the terrain nicely, but the boot section is flimsy compared to
most skates in that price range and I want to reinforce 'em

Post by B Fuhrmann
I have
even found the Rollerblade replacement buckle/strap sets in one of the "big
box" stores (Galyan's)

nuts - none in WA state, the advice here and elsewhere leads me to
conclude that skates just ain't rebuildable - so I'll fallback to
haunting thrift stores for old K2s :)

Even without the boot, you could do kool things with the frames

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[B Fuhrmann]

Post by UnderSerf

Post by B Fuhrmann
I have
even found the Rollerblade replacement buckle/strap sets in one of the "big
box" stores (Galyan's)

"UnderSerf" wrote ...

Post by UnderSerf
nuts - none in WA state, the advice here and elsewhere leads me to
conclude that skates just ain't rebuildable - so I'll fallback to
haunting thrift stores for old K2s :)

If you can find a store that really caters to the agressive skaters, I would
be surprised if they didn't have the spare parts. One online store that I
have found parts at is www.skates.com (it is the mail order part of Skates
on Haight).

If you want the Rollerblade parts, I would suggest going to the
www.rollerblade.com web page and find an e-mail contact for them. They did
give me the name of a nearby (4 blocks) small shop when I couldn't find
brakes for my Macroblades. The shop had the brake.

Otherwise you can go to the K2 web site and hunt for their online parts
sales. They have several strap sets (2 straps and receivers per set plus
the assembly hardware ) for $16-20. So that you don't need to go on a
scavenger hunt, go to the support page
(http://www.k2skates.com/03support/default.asp) look in the FAQ column,
select "Order Online" and then select the link in the window that it opens.
They have 3 buckle sets in the agressive parts and 4 in the rec/fitness
parts.

Don't even bother with Salomon. They neither make an e-mail or phone number
publicly available to you to contact them, and if you dare find the phone
number on your own, will tell you that there is no way you can get a part
directly from them for any reason. (that really is what they told me.) I
like their skates, it's just their customer non-service policy that it
stupid.

Post by UnderSerf
Even without the boot, you could do kool things with the frames

That would be another alternative. Get a cheap or old pair of hard boot
skates and mount the Cyote frames on them. Obviously, that would take some
inspection to see if it can be done and is not something for the mechanicaly
inept.

[UnderSerf]

On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:28:42 -0500, "B Fuhrmann"

Post by B Fuhrmann
If you can find a store that really caters to the agressive skaters, I would
be surprised if they didn't have the spare parts. One online store that I
have found parts at is www.skates.com (it is the mail order part of Skates
on Haight).

on Haight? As in Haight-Ashbury? Wow, I lived there when my mother was
going through her hippy phase back in '66 :)

Post by B Fuhrmann
If you want the Rollerblade parts, I would suggest going to the
www.rollerblade.com web page and find an e-mail contact for them. They did
give me the name of a nearby (4 blocks) small shop when I couldn't find
brakes for my Macroblades. The shop had the brake.

This wouldn't be a =replacement= buckle, but rather add-on, because
the Coyote is woefully under-buckled - it uses a single, weak top
strap and laces, with one single buckle that warps the boot

I wanna add two more ;)

Post by B Fuhrmann
(http://www.k2skates.com/03support/default.asp) look in the FAQ column,
select "Order Online" and then select the link in the window that it opens.
They have 3 buckle sets in the agressive parts and 4 in the rec/fitness
parts.

WOW thankyouthankyouthankyou!!!

Too very kewl, I've been on the K2 site before - why would I even
THINK too look in the "online oredring" section for parts?!!?

jeez, mon, the have the stupid too we lost ages ago - we've been
struggling along with square drive/allen head conventional tools

YAY, exactly, precisely, unmistakably what I wanted!

Thanx loads and loads, Mr (*ahem*) Fuhrman!

Post by B Fuhrmann

Post by UnderSerf
Even without the boot, you could do kool things with the frames

That would be another alternative. Get a cheap or old pair of hard boot
skates and mount the Cyote frames on them. Obviously, that would take some
inspection to see if it can be done and is not something for the mechanicaly
inept.

Inept ain't a problem - I've built a pretty decent trailer with a
oxyacetylene torch, axle sets and a old mattress frame - as a
machinist I was part iof a crew that reconditioned DC-10 motormounts
(=that= was jerry-rigging at its finest ;)

Mod'ing skates ain't no biggie, but do like to have nice parts to
start with

thanx again, I'm gonna take some before-and-after photos to show the
modifications - these will become awesome skates with the right
buckles, IMO ;)

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[Motorblade]

Post by UnderSerf
on Haight? As in Haight-Ashbury? Wow, I lived there when my mother was
going through her hippy phase back in '66 :)

Post by B Fuhrmann
If you want the Rollerblade parts, I would suggest going to the
www.rollerblade.com web page and find an e-mail contact for them. They did
give me the name of a nearby (4 blocks) small shop when I couldn't find
brakes for my Macroblades. The shop had the brake.

This wouldn't be a =replacement= buckle, but rather add-on, because
the Coyote is woefully under-buckled - it uses a single, weak top
strap and laces, with one single buckle that warps the boot
I wanna add two more ;)

Post by B Fuhrmann
(http://www.k2skates.com/03support/default.asp) look in the FAQ column,
select "Order Online" and then select the link in the window that it opens.
They have 3 buckle sets in the agressive parts and 4 in the rec/fitness
parts.

WOW thankyouthankyouthankyou!!!
Too very kewl, I've been on the K2 site before - why would I even
THINK too look in the "online oredring" section for parts?!!?
jeez, mon, the have the stupid too we lost ages ago - we've been
struggling along with square drive/allen head conventional tools
YAY, exactly, precisely, unmistakably what I wanted!
Thanx loads and loads, Mr (*ahem*) Fuhrman!

Post by B Fuhrmann

Post by UnderSerf
Even without the boot, you could do kool things with the frames

That would be another alternative. Get a cheap or old pair of hard boot
skates and mount the Cyote frames on them. Obviously, that would take some
inspection to see if it can be done and is not something for the mechanicaly
inept.

Inept ain't a problem - I've built a pretty decent trailer with a
oxyacetylene torch, axle sets and a old mattress frame - as a
machinist I was part iof a crew that reconditioned DC-10 motormounts
(=that= was jerry-rigging at its finest ;)
Mod'ing skates ain't no biggie, but do like to have nice parts to
start with
thanx again, I'm gonna take some before-and-after photos to show the
modifications - these will become awesome skates with the right
buckles, IMO ;)

Doesn't yours have the power strap with wire that tucks under heel?

Perhaps you are missing it, it goes through that groove at the heel

That may be the part you reallly need.




"fritz"
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HREF="http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2001-05-11/xtra_featu
re4.html">The Austin Chronicle Features: A Life on Wheels</A>
www.motorblade.com
Birdy(Parker), Brazil(Gilliam),and Brewster McCloud(Altman)

[B Fuhrmann]

"UnderSerf" wrote om...

Post by UnderSerf
This wouldn't be a =replacement= buckle, but rather add-on, because
the Coyote is woefully under-buckled - it uses a single, weak top
strap and laces, with one single buckle that warps the boot
I wanna add two more ;)

I understood that. As far as any of the skate companies would know, you are
looking to buy a replacement strap assembly for some skate.

Post by UnderSerf
Too very kewl, I've been on the K2 site before - why would I even
THINK too look in the "online oredring" section for parts?!!?

But would you think of hunting that far to find something that you don't
know exists. The only reason that I looked for it (it has moved) is that I
knew that they had it in the past.

Only Salomon seems to be adamant about you not contacting them for help, but
the others don't want you to do it without jumping through some hoops first.

[UnderSerf]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:02:01 -0500, "B Fuhrmann"

Post by B Fuhrmann
I understood that. As far as any of the skate companies would know, you are
looking to buy a replacement strap assembly for some skate.

yeppers - I even found Coyote buckles on Rollerblades' site - but the
stock buckle is aggravatingly difficult compared to the K2 design

(my kid already outgrew 2 pair of K2s, I jut can't bring myself to
cannabalize 200-dollar skates ;)

Post by B Fuhrmann
Only Salomon seems to be adamant about you not contacting them for help, but
the others don't want you to do it without jumping through some hoops first.

yeah, got that, Fuhrmann, you're pissed at Salomon

*(GRIN)*

I'll be avoiding Salomon on your advice, thre's NOTHING that gets to
me like bad customer service ;)

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[B Fuhrmann]

"fuhrmann" wrote...

Post by UnderSerf

Post by B Fuhrmann
Only Salomon seems to be adamant about you not contacting them for help, but
the others don't want you to do it without jumping through some hoops first.

"UnderSerf" wrote ...

Post by UnderSerf
yeah, got that, Fuhrmann, you're pissed at Salomon
*(GRIN)*

Not really. I like their skates. The most comfortable skates that I have
had have been from them.
I just think that their attitude of ignoring the customer except at retail
is stupid.

The other two of the big three are a slight bit better. Eventually somone
in Salomon's marketing will be handed some of the comments by me and the
others and enlightenment may dawn on them.

All of them have heavily bloated web sites that are big on slow visuals and
have almost no information to really let you know what the skates are like
and to help you decide which of their skates would be better for you.

Post by UnderSerf
I'll be avoiding Salomon on your advice, thre's NOTHING that gets to
me like bad customer service ;)

If they fit you better or fit your needs better, I would not recommend that
you avoid them because of the corporate policy. Most people need very
little customer service. If I needed new skates right now, I would still
consider them.

The local "shop" (www.rollerbob.com) that has, by far, the best customer
service, only sells Rollerblade. The next best shop sells Salomon and
Rollerblade. The third specialty skate shop carries Salomon and (I think)
K2. I would still try on skates from all three makers to see which ones
were best for me and then pick the best shop that carried them.

PS. You were right in your previous assumption. I am Bill Fuhrmann.

[UnderSerf]

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:44:56 -0500, "B Fuhrmann"
<***@cpinternet.DELETE.com> wrote:

(off-topic here folks, sorry)

Post by B Fuhrmann
PS. You were right in your previous assumption. I am Bill Fuhrmann.

sorry Bill, but you have a famous name (tho I think Mark spells his
last name with the "R" and "H" transposed ;)

there was a place I once lived where being a Fuhrmann coulda got you
shot :(

[UnderSerf]

Let me know if you come up dry in your attempt to find buckles , I could
probably get some from my scavange pile or from my reps warehouse.

you guys were so helpful, I saved out the entire thread - the
moderator should add the info to your FAQ ;)

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