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Ninja Mini Miser(ceramic) vs BSB 688 swiss question
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Kevin Duggan
2005-03-21 11:46:34 UTC
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Would there be a advantage going from BSB 688 swiss
to a Ninja mini miser which is a ceramic bearing.
The skates I use are a pair of 5 wheel Solomon Pilot Pro V's.

I am trying to increase my speed, I usually skate
ten miles + a day,.. weather permitting.

Here in Massachusetts
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b***@gmail.com
2005-03-21 18:22:26 UTC
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Post by Kevin Duggan
Would there be a advantage going from BSB 688 swiss
to a Ninja mini miser which is a ceramic bearing.
The skates I use are a pair of 5 wheel Solomon Pilot Pro V's.
I am trying to increase my speed, I usually skate
ten miles + a day,.. weather permitting.
Unless you are skating with the pros, bearings are not going to be all
that big a part of your speed. The better the bearing you are starting
with, the less improvement you can get (even with a "perfect" bearing.

You didn't say how fast you are. The answers are going to be a lot
different if your times for a marathon are 1:19 (20 mph), 1:45 (15
mph), or 2:37 (10 mph).

For most people, improving your skill and fitness will do much more
than equipment. People on significantly "lesser" skates pass me at
every event that I have been in.
Kevin Duggan
2005-03-21 21:41:38 UTC
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I guess I would be about 15mph,
My technique I am sure leaves a lot to be desired.
I think I will join the Boston inline club
this year.

Thanks

kevin
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Post by Kevin Duggan
Would there be a advantage going from BSB 688 swiss
to a Ninja mini miser which is a ceramic bearing.
The skates I use are a pair of 5 wheel Solomon Pilot Pro V's.
I am trying to increase my speed, I usually skate
ten miles + a day,.. weather permitting.
Unless you are skating with the pros, bearings are not going to be all
that big a part of your speed. The better the bearing you are starting
with, the less improvement you can get (even with a "perfect" bearing.
You didn't say how fast you are. The answers are going to be a lot
different if your times for a marathon are 1:19 (20 mph), 1:45 (15
mph), or 2:37 (10 mph).
For most people, improving your skill and fitness will do much more
than equipment. People on significantly "lesser" skates pass me at
every event that I have been in.
--
http://www.soundclick.com/kevinduggan

http://www.kevsblues.com
Denny Metcalf
2005-03-21 23:21:28 UTC
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Hello Kevin,

I'm from Boston as well.
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Manager, GSU Tech Services
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Post by Kevin Duggan
I guess I would be about 15mph,
My technique I am sure leaves a lot to be desired.
I think I will join the Boston inline club
this year.
Thanks
kevin
Post by b***@gmail.com
Post by Kevin Duggan
Would there be a advantage going from BSB 688 swiss
to a Ninja mini miser which is a ceramic bearing.
The skates I use are a pair of 5 wheel Solomon Pilot Pro V's.
I am trying to increase my speed, I usually skate
ten miles + a day,.. weather permitting.
Unless you are skating with the pros, bearings are not going to be all
that big a part of your speed. The better the bearing you are starting
with, the less improvement you can get (even with a "perfect" bearing.
You didn't say how fast you are. The answers are going to be a lot
different if your times for a marathon are 1:19 (20 mph), 1:45 (15
mph), or 2:37 (10 mph).
For most people, improving your skill and fitness will do much more
than equipment. People on significantly "lesser" skates pass me at
every event that I have been in.
--
http://www.soundclick.com/kevinduggan
http://www.kevsblues.com
LSMike
2005-03-22 12:49:49 UTC
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Post by Kevin Duggan
Would there be a advantage going from BSB 688 swiss
to a Ninja mini miser which is a ceramic bearing.
The skates I use are a pair of 5 wheel Solomon Pilot Pro V's.
I am trying to increase my speed, I usually skate
ten miles + a day,.. weather permitting.
Here in Massachusetts
--
http://www.soundclick.com/kevinduggan
http://www.kevsblues.com
The most payback you'll get is if you invest time and money into
improving your technique. All the other stuff has far far less effect.
This article may explain why:

http://www.londonskaters.com/article-subtleties-of-speed-skating-stride.htm

Shameless plug: Why not attend a workshop like Eddy Matzger's? They
are a whole weekend of drills that will do wonders for your technique
and efficiency. I got massive improvements in my speed thanks to his
workshops. (I now work for Eddy hence the shameless plug announcement)
Daniel Barlow
2005-03-22 22:53:17 UTC
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Post by LSMike
The most payback you'll get is if you invest time and money into
improving your technique. All the other stuff has far far less effect.
http://www.londonskaters.com/article-subtleties-of-speed-skating-stride.htm
But notwithstanding what that article says about subtlety and
investing "many years to build an effective speed skating stride",
don't start thinking it takes many years to see any improvement at
all. Once you know what you should be doing, then even after just a
few weeks or months practice you'll be seeing serious improvements in
your speed and in the effort you need to attain that speed.


-dan
LSMike
2005-03-23 08:37:25 UTC
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Post by Daniel Barlow
Post by LSMike
The most payback you'll get is if you invest time and money into
improving your technique. All the other stuff has far far less effect.
http://www.londonskaters.com/article-subtleties-of-speed-skating-stride.htm
Post by Daniel Barlow
But notwithstanding what that article says about subtlety and
investing "many years to build an effective speed skating stride",
don't start thinking it takes many years to see any improvement at
all. Once you know what you should be doing, then even after just a
few weeks or months practice you'll be seeing serious improvements in
your speed and in the effort you need to attain that speed.
-dan
Absolutely, I should perhaps make that clearer with an edit. :)
inlina
2005-03-23 23:30:04 UTC
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Post by Kevin Duggan
Would there be a advantage going from BSB 688 swiss
to a Ninja mini miser which is a ceramic bearing.
The skates I use are a pair of 5 wheel Solomon Pilot Pro V's.
I know the thread is getting a bit old now but.....

I went from Bones Swiss to SpeedMaster Ceramics (ABEC 7 FWIW), both
608's though, in my speed skates and really found nothing special.

Last time I checked, Ninja's were overpriced IMHO.

Corey
B Fuhrmann
2005-03-24 15:55:07 UTC
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"inlina" wrote ...
Post by inlina
I went from Bones Swiss to SpeedMaster Ceramics (ABEC 7 FWIW), both
608's though, in my speed skates and really found nothing special.
Last time I checked, Ninja's were overpriced IMHO.
For most skaters, I would add the Bones Swiss to the overpriced category.
inlina
2005-03-24 23:12:30 UTC
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Post by B Fuhrmann
For most skaters, I would add the Bones Swiss to the overpriced category.
True

Corey

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